Wednesday, 16 June 2010

  • Can SSA/Gay People Enjoy Straight Sex? How About Their Spouse? (Part 1)

    I think this blog title is my longest to date! :)

    Over the last 2 weeks I've had 2 or 3 people on xanga ask me about straight sex/marriage from an SSA perspective. I thought I'd try and do a mini-series on this topic because I figured we could try and make this a conversation. So I'll kick this post off with an email I received.

    "I Struggle with SSA and wanted to know how you seemed to get married. I long for a wife but am so scared my struggle will prevent me from "preforming" my duties as a husband to satisfy her. Can you offer any wisdom or guidance as I begin my walk to freedom from this struggle?"

    I think I've previously shared a bit about my sex life and sex in general (from my perspective), which is probably where the above question flowed from. I don't think you can search within my blog, so I'll try to go through and add "tags" to my old blogs. But that will be a task, that may take some time/inspiration.

    #1 Feeling concern/fear of not being able to perform well is a fear shared by most of us with SSA. I know 1 big thing that helped me was knowing my fiancee. None of the fear came directly because of her. I just feared the unknown. What would happen? Would we just go to bed every night without either of us engaging each other? Would my little guy do anything or hibernate for a very long winter? How would my wife respond to my unaroused state? Would I be turned on by her naked or semi-clothed body?
    These are all legitimate questions. I don't know if these are questions going through your mind, or if you have others. I don't encourage ignoring these types of questions. In the long run it's better to explore them now then after marriage.

    Something to keep in mind while exploring these questions is that a marriage relationship is always evolving and growing or dieing. Porn and fantasy (along with masturbation) don't prepare a person for a marriage relationship. If you can break those addictions before marriage, you'll be started off much better.

    I can't answer any of the above questions for you. But I'll briefly share a few of my experiences. (Keep in mind I was still addicted to porn, fantasy & masturbation.)

    After I Proposed
    A few weeks after I proposed I was back in university away from Anna. I began to wonder what I was getting myself into. This is really when all the above questions became serious and needed answer. I didn't get answers, but decided love/marriage is a huge step of faith/trust no matter to a man or a woman. I knew Anna since we were 16, so I figured if I'm going to jump with someone she the 1 I'm going to jump with...instead of some imaginary man/relationship and a change in my conviction about same-sex sexual relationships.

    The Wedding Night
    It was a long but amazing day. Wedding service was awesome. Reception was fun. We were driven to the airport hotel, so that we could get our flight the next day. The room had the hugest bed I'd ever seen!! Seriously, 4 adults could have slept on it-no problem. Lots of space to "role around", if you know what I mean...but I wasn't really thinking about that. At least not in a fun/exciting way. I didn't freak out...I just had no "plan" and didn't know what we'd be doing. We never talked through what our first night together would be like. Thankful my wife took the lead and said she was going to get in the shower and said I could join her if I wanted to. I decided to follow. We kissed/made-out and embraced for a bit. Then finished our shower and went to sleep together. I think that's exactly what I needed. I definitely didn't need the frustration/anxiety that comes along with figuring out how sex works! (It's not as easy as you would think, at least not for us.)

    The Honeymoon
    We had a decent honeymoon suite in a small beach hotel in an island in Malaysia. I think we had around 10 days there, so didn't feel rushed into getting our sex on, but it didn't take long for us to try having sex. My wife was not sexual active prior to me, but has been molested (without intercourse) so she was trying to figure everything out along with dealing with our own fears and emotions. So we had a lot going against us. I didn't exactly struggle with getting an erection, it just wasn't very strong or long lasting. I think this was mostly due to anxiety and lack of confidence. All those questions I had previously thought were still in my mind. I'm trying to remember how long it took before I was able to climax inside her, but did happen sometime during the week. But I do remember it took a few days, because I remember masturbating on the 2nd or 3rd day because I was blue balling in a major way! I felt guilty for M'ing on my honeymoon, but the past is the past and the future allows for grow. I don't think I ever told my wife. May be I should. Our current marriage group just discussed the topic of "confession" last night.

    Time Warp (extremely brief for now)
    Our sexual relationship took a long long time to develop. We both had our pasts to deal with and I didn't find freedom from P&M until 2 years into marriage. That was a HUGE problem. It didn't exactly build trust or a strong foundation. She's almost left me at least twice. And has told me that she will leave me if I become addicted to porn again...and won't return until I get free again. I understand and agree with it. I don't want our daughter to have any influence of porn in her life.
    I need to wrap this 1st installment up now.

    If you have any questions based on what I've written or any that related to this topic. Just post them as a comment and then I'll try and answer them in a follow-up post. 

    I try and live as honestly as possible. I find personal honesty can bring about great growth and it's probably the main reason why my marriage is still alive. Of course the Holy Spirit is a greatest help in being able to trust each other (my wife and I) with pure honesty.

    peace my fellow strugglers,
    daniel

Comments (20)

  • lonelystrangergirl

    ^_^ Hi, Mister. I was just wondering what SSA was.

  • Ody_dan

    @lonelystrangergirl - It stands for same sex attraction. Aren't abbreviations great :)
    Thanks for stopping by.

  • lonelystrangergirl

    Ahh! no problem. I know I'm being totally random, but is this blog about SSA + Gays resisting their feelings and sort of becoming straight?

  • Ody_dan

    @lonelystrangergirl - Not really. :) It's my personal journal/place for me to process my sexuality as well as other random things. I occasionally discuss topics, but mostly it's just me journaling bits of my life or things in my head. Sexuality is a complex thing, at least for me. Previously I was mostly attracted to penis', but in love with a woman who I married. As I've been married and learned to fully enjoy my wife, I'm rarely attracted to penis'. But I'm still not attracted to other woman...sexually. I'm attracted to certain men and women based on certain aspects. Could be character trait or personal beauty. But it's very rare that I'm attracted sexually. That's about the shortest I can summarize my sexuality :)
    So, am I straight? or gay? or bi? or do I get another label? :)

  • sufferingservant7

    Thanks Daniel for creating this blog and the following ones in this series. I always wanted to know to know the answer to these question. I guess from your above comment, you were mostly attracted to guys before your wife? How far was your attraction to the opposite sex? Was there ever a point when you were physically attracted to women?

  • lonelystrangergirl

    haha wow! this is friggin interesting!! I was a bit confused when I read it first, but I understand completely, now. I don't think you need a label. You're a guy in love. The end.

  • Jupianking

    Daniel,


    Dude, You rock so much. Thank you so much for this. I have longed for answers to these questions and actually knowing what happenes and iff there is any hope for me. I thank My savior for allowing you to struggle this way so that you could write about it and use your writings as a source of insite and encouragement. Praise God for loveing us and provideing for our needs, even the emotional ones.

  • Ody_dan

    @lonelystrangergirl - thanks for understanding. Those of us with SSA, but choose to get married to a woman often get judged by both "sides". "Christian"-because we're attracted to the same sex and some of them get freaked out about it. Non-Christian, because they think we are denying and suppressing our "true" desires.
    I took a look at your blog. I appreciate your honesty as well. Life can be a bitch sometimes. It can help to remember that Jesus loves you. Love is such a splendid thing...

    @Jupianking - I also praise God for all the things He's allowed me to experience-both the good and the bad. It's only God who can make all things become useful.

  • lonelystrangergirl

    Mm, yeah. I totally understand the whole "judging" thing. When I first read this, I was thinking, "oh no!!" It reminded me of that movie, But I'm A Cheerleader (where the girl gets sent to a Straight Camp.) But, this is completely different. 

    It's love. I mean, you want to live a certain lifestyle. That's perfectly fine. You're not kicking kitties or punching puppies, so no one should really get on your back. But, it's understandable that people do. It's, sadly, almost human nature to assume, it seems. Everyone SHOULD be happy for you because you're in love (nevertheless,) but that rarely happens in any situation. There'll always be people to bring you down (whether inadvertently or not.) I wish you well.
  • perseveringalltheway

    Thanks for sharing Dan! It was interesting and helpful to read.
    Chris

  • Ody_dan

    @Chrisjb7 - Glad to be of service :)

  • twoBeckonings

    Really interesting stuff here...thanks so much for sharing your experiences!

  • anonymous

    Hi, thank you for sharing. You being public about your experience with SSA helps inform the church body of the existance of members who have SSA and the need for support from the body. P.S. I was wondering: Does your wife read your blog? She's given you the ok in sharing about your experiences and hers, like her background? I don't want her trust in you to be comprimised because of it. Just looking out for you :). 

  • anonymous

    Thank you for being so open and honest!! I have always wondered these things but never wanted to ask anyone. This is a huge help to me as I have always wondered what it would be like if someday I were to get married since I have these SSA struggles.

  • Ody_dan

    @Peter - Thanks for considering my wife. She's read my blog at times. Because I use this place as a person journal/processing, she only goes on if I tell her too. She has a similar online group/place.
    We've both given each other permission to talk about our backgrounds.

  • usnstang

    Dan,

    Such a different viewpoint than how I view the world and my walk with Christ! Refreshing, inspiring, convicting, thought provoking and at times confusing. For all of this that you present to the world and myself, I thank you!

    Prayers for you and your ministry! Look forward to reading the next post and having my world view expanded.

    Peace,

    Daemon

  • joeliustook

    Wow.  This is exactly what I needed.  I'm so thankful for you, Dan, for being so open and honest.  Even though I have some guys I trust, some of whom are APs, it's just awkward to really bring some of these questions up to those who are married.  So thank you very much, and I can not wait to read future installments.

  • carleton1958

    Just finally read this post during some downtime in the hospital.  I've written out a similar narrative in a private message somewhere.  I may have to go dig it out and consider posting.  I do recall that it was Night #5 when we climaxed for the first time, and it was glorious and we laughed and we felt supreme joy. 

  • usnstang

    Dan,

    Hope this summer has gone well for you. Haven't heard how you are doing, so I am going to say you are great till I know otherwise. You and your fam are on my prayer list and just wondered how you are going.

    Give us all a shout and let us know what's up if you get the chance. Peace to you and yours!

    Daemon
    Jude 22

  • Ody_dan

    @usnstang - Thanks for stopping by and checking up with me :) Regarding summer...it doesn't really register with me anymore. I don't have kids in school yet, the Philippines has summer weather all year round and Philippines summer is actually April-June :)

    I general update is definitely due. I should try and get to "Part 2" of this series of 1 :)

    Take care Daemon.

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